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Edward Hara's avatar

The appeal to "free-wiil" self-damnation is probably one of the most insanely stupid arguments one can imagine.

1. There is no such thing as "free- will" in the sinner. The destruction of our nature by the indwelling of sin makes the ability to freely choose impossible. Christian philosophers such as Thomas Talbot have posited that "only when the ability to choose is unaffected by internal and external constraints can one be said to have the ability of utilizing a free choice." Those who appeal to the idea of a "free-will" theodicy of eternal hell are conflating the ability to make choice with the freedom to choose rightly. They are not the same.

2. The idea that God's salvific response is somehow tied to His observing within the sinner some faint desire for union with the Divine is equally ludicrous. I am one of millions (billions perhaps?) who was brought to Christ against his will. (Think C S Lewis "watching with horror" the approach of faith). The sinner desires one thing: his sin. If God had respected that "free-will" in me, I would most likely be long dead from the self- destructive behaviors I cherished.

3. How are we supposedly making a "free-will" choice for our own damnation when we have not seen that which we are choosing against? To say that the sinner will somehow tenaciously cling to his sin in the presence of indescribable beauty and love strikes me as patent nonsense. Faced with the choice for the first time ever, between the horror of its own nothingness without Christ, and the love standing right before it, what soul will turn from Christ? As Talbot has said, we all tend to make choices that are in our best interest. Is the choice in the next life, if this is what it boils down to - a moment of choice, any less made in self-interest? I think not!

Talbot further states that only deranged person would choose against his best interest, and in justice, such people are not punished, but worked with to bring them to healing.

The Roman culture was obsessed with law and punishment, and this thinking, helped by Augustine in no small manner, took over the thinking of the Church.

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Would love to invite you back to Grail Country once you wrap this up.

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